Steppin’ Out of Babylon: Podcast-Radio Interviews by Sue Supriano

“Babylon” is the “isms” and “schisms” not only within the system but within ourselves. Let's organize, unify and step out of Babylon.



Sue Supriano’s Steppin’ Out of Babylon is a radio interview series covering a broad range of important issues in today’s world: peace and war, human and civil rights, communication, the media, the environment, food security, racism, globalization, immigration and matters of the spirit. Over 250 shows are available at this site!



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Barrie Zwicker

The Great Conspiracy- The 9/11 News Special You Never Saw

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TRT: 29:00
Date: 2005-03-27

Barrie Zwicker, maker of The Great Conspiracy- The 9/11 News Special You Never Saw, is from Toronto, Canada where he was, for many years, the host of a national TV show and a media critic. He is also a long-distance runner and writer. The film addresses what Zwicker calls the "9/11" cover-up which he says became obvious to him when he saw that no planes intervened in the 2 hours they had to stop the planes from going into the Twin Towers in New York, he saw how the Bush Administration didn't do much of anything (Bush continued to read to children in school in Florida), and how there was no investigation into the crime until over 400 days later when Kissinger, the master of many cover-ups, was put in charge. The 9/11 Commission Report didn't even address the most important issues of the crime.

Zwicker says he has decided to devote the rest of his life to uncovering what happened on 9/11/01 He goes on to talk about a book he's writing now about 9/11 with some emphasis on exploring the issue of why people don't question that the US military didn't intervene in this attack, that the US Government had the names of the alleged perpetrators minutes after the attack, but didn't stop them before, etc.--many pieces of information that should cause people to question the official story. Zwicker divides people generally into 3 groups-- 1) those that "got" that it was a cover up intuitively fairly soon after the tragic event, 2) those that have been convinced to question it over time and after seeing evidence to the contrary of the official story and 3) those that can't bear to even consider that the official story is not true. This third category is especially perplexing considering how long governments have been doing brutal and secretive things such as testing nuclear weapons in the US and letting huge numbers of Americans, even whole cities, be exposed to radiation while the government kept secret track of how the health of these people was affected by the radiation.

He explains that people often act against their own interests and gives the broad support for Hitler as an example saying that the only folks who stood against Hitler in Germany were the Socialists and the Communists. It is the "conscious left" and we must stand up and speak out. He speaks highly of Malcolm Gladwell's books Blink and The Tipping Point which explain how very quickly the right brain can kick in and people can "get" the truth about something. When enough people do "get it" the "tipping point" is reached and change happens.


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December 26, 2015

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