Steppin’ Out of Babylon: Podcast-Radio Interviews by Sue Supriano

“Babylon” is the “isms” and “schisms” not only within the system but within ourselves. Let's organize, unify and step out of Babylon.



Sue Supriano’s Steppin’ Out of Babylon is a radio interview series covering a broad range of important issues in today’s world: peace and war, human and civil rights, communication, the media, the environment, food security, racism, globalization, immigration and matters of the spirit. Over 250 shows are available at this site!



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Andrew Mannle

Senior editor of Grassroots Journalism for a Green Future.

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Date: 2008-06-25 is a website that functions as a clearinghouse which provides informed news and creates context for what is happening in the green movement. It is a clearinghouse for information regarding various issues and aspects involved in transition to a sustainable global culture including green building design, new transportation, renewable energy, environmental policy, creative capitalism and more. Manley gives a very upbeat, positive presentation. He claims we really need to start asking better questions in relation to where the global culture is headed.

For example on peak oil the thing with it is nobody knows whether we hit peak oil last year, two years ago, or will three years from now. The point is it doesn’t really matter. The real question is why aren’t we switching to the only form of energy this planet survives on which is solar energy. Oil is a form of solar energy. We’re taking past solar energy and burning through it as fast as we can in a way that harms our future. Too much of our current focus is on false choices such as should we drill for oil in Alaska, or go to war for another six months or few years of oil. The right questions are: What is all life on this planet dependent on and how can we harmlessly derive our energy, food, buildings, clothes, entertainment etc. from those sources? Instead of talking about energy scarcity we need to be looking at how does this earth survive on solar economy and how can we do the same? There is enough energy from the sun hitting the planet in an hour to power our civilization for a year. Combined with other renewable energy sources like wind, we can design a sustainable energy foundation that can in human terms last forever.

Manley is excited about what is called the “triple top line”, the idea that we can solve our environmental problems by solving our social problems and improve the economy at the same time. He provides intriguing examples of how this is already starting in many places. is the nexus he has helped create which provides this information on an ongoing, daily basis.

Recorded at the Ecocities World Summit, April 2008, in San Francisco.


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December 26, 2015

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Sue, who lived an amazing life from 1938 - 2015.