Steppin’ Out of Babylon: Podcast-Radio Interviews by Sue Supriano

“Babylon” is the “isms” and “schisms” not only within the system but within ourselves. Let's organize, unify and step out of Babylon.



Sue Supriano’s Steppin’ Out of Babylon is a radio interview series covering a broad range of important issues in today’s world: peace and war, human and civil rights, communication, the media, the environment, food security, racism, globalization, immigration and matters of the spirit. Over 250 shows are available at this site!



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Kathy Kelly

Nonviolent peace activist who works a lot with Iraqis, founder of Voices in the Wilderness, now renamed-- Voices for Creative Nonviolence

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TRT: 27:58
Date: 2009-03-09

Kathy Kelly is a nonviolent peace activist, founder of Voices in the Wilderness, now renamed-- Voices for Creative Nonviolence, and an active participant in the Catholic Workers. Since 1996 she has been involved in matters of Iraq and since 2006 has been living and working with Iraqi people in Jordan. At the time of this interview she was working to help Iraqis who have come to the U.S. In this interview Kelly remarks how protective and concerned American families can be about their children and that Iraqi families are the same. However due to the commonness of death threats, family members in prison, houses being destroyed, dealing constantly with multiple traumas and symptoms of post traumatic stress syndrome etc., it’s an immense challenge to stay calm and positive. People get through the days by drawing on wells of deep courage. It is by taking inspiration from the others around her that Kelly personally keeps going with her work in war zones and her time in prison.

Kelly speaks about the plans for the Voices for Creative Nonviolence Camp Hope project-- a 19 day encampment in Chicago from New Year’s day to Jan 19, 2009. They camp near the Obama’s house in Chicago because they wanted to tell Obama that they hold him responsible to follow through on his campaign promises—e.g. close Guantanamo, ratify the Kyoto Protocol, seek full employment, declare a 90 day moratorium on housing foreclosures, bring the military back from Iraq, take nuclear weapons off air-trigger alert, stop the immigration raids and work on health care coverage for all. Kelly points out that even if all 40,000 combat troops came home there would still be 180,000 private, armed, security contractors working in Iraq who can be very dangerous—some names are Blackwater, Triple Canopy, Dyncorps, Halliburton, Bechtel, Kellog, Brown and Root.

Kelly reminds us it is our tax money that pays these companies and these expenses in Iraq, which some people are resisting using a war tax boycott. One can start small and take $100 of taxes owed by them and redirect it to either Common Ground Clinic in New Orleans working with victims of Katrina, and/or to the Direct Aid Iraq Initiative to pay the medical bills of Iraqis who have escaped Iraq to Jordan and can’t pay medical bills. Kelly emphasizes that we need to stop funding the killing of people.

Voices for Creative Nonviolence link: Tel: 773-878-3815

Link to: National War Tax Resistance Coordinating Committee

Link to: Camp Hope 2009


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