Steppin’ Out of Babylon: Podcast-Radio Interviews by Sue Supriano

“Babylon” is the “isms” and “schisms” not only within the system but within ourselves. Let's organize, unify and step out of Babylon.



Sue Supriano’s Steppin’ Out of Babylon is a radio interview series covering a broad range of important issues in today’s world: peace and war, human and civil rights, communication, the media, the environment, food security, racism, globalization, immigration and matters of the spirit. Over 250 shows are available at this site!



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Terry Hurst

Bikathon fundraising for the Mestizo Center of Culture & Arts in Salt Lake City

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TRT: 27:00
Date: 2010-02-11

Terry Hurst had ridden his bicycle from Salt Lake City, Utah to Eugene, Oregon when Sue Supriano met him. His destination was the San Francisco Bay Area. He’s a Board Member of the Mestizo Center of Culture and Arts in Salt Lake City—a nonprofit culture and arts organization on the west side of Salt Lake City. Salt Lake City is very ethnically diverse. Hurst’s neighborhood is 45% Latino, 3% Native Amer., 3% African American, 8% Pacific Islander, 6% Asian and 30% Caucasian. There are also many refugees—Tibetan, Vietnamese, Serbian and Ruandan. Of course these groups, including the GLBT population have their own churches, temples and centers.etc.—just in his neighborhood. The truth is that this diversity is the model for the US. Hurst believes that when you see people as the problems you build more jails and more “at risk” programs. When people are seen as the solutions you build more businesses, banks, community gardens and green programs for the neighborhood. Since the latter is the attitude of the organizers and organizations in his community this neighborhood now has the lowest crime rate in the city. They even had kids fixing up the living spaces of the elderly and other types of jobs which accomplish more than one thing.

The reason why Hurst is riding his bike, something he has never before done, is to raise money in small amounts from many people to build this “green” building on the West Side of Salt Lake City. It will be built by and for the youth he works with, thus changing the culture of the area by showing that it can be done. His dream is to get $1.00 from lots of people and to rebuild networks and movements of positive social change in the world. We can be good mentors and help these kids who respond so quickly. Hurst urges people to invest in programs like theirs which get folks working together and building community—“green” communities at that.

More info at:,, and look for videos on U-tube. Recorded in January, 2010


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Sue, who lived an amazing life from 1938 - 2015.