Steppin’ Out of Babylon: Podcast-Radio Interviews by Sue Supriano

“Babylon” is the “isms” and “schisms” not only within the system but within ourselves. Let's organize, unify and step out of Babylon.



Sue Supriano’s Steppin’ Out of Babylon is a radio interview series covering a broad range of important issues in today’s world: peace and war, human and civil rights, communication, the media, the environment, food security, racism, globalization, immigration and matters of the spirit. Over 250 shows are available at this site!



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Richard Heinberg

"Peak Oil" and it's impact on us, (Program 1)

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TRT: 27:10
Date: 2004-09-01

Richard Heinberg is a writer and teacher whose focus in these times is "peak oil".  Presently he teaches Human Ecology at New College of San Francisco in Santa Rosa, California. Two of his several books are  The Party's Over-Oil, War and the Fate of Industrial Societies and Powerdown:Options and Actions for a Post Carbon World.  In this first of two interviews with Sue Supriano he explains that "peak oil" means that the cheap oil we've had available to build our industrial world is over and our industrialized world has already started coming to the end that is inevitable and which is likely to be a huge dislocation from the way of life to which we are accustomed in the "first world".  It will affect the energy that we're used to having and transportation, food supply, common materials that we're used to which are based on oil-- plastic, clothes, buildings and on and on.

In this interview he focuses on analyzing the geopolitical issues of who controls the remaining oil as well as the probable wars and political control which we see already occuring.  He says he thinks "the gloves will come off" in terms of attempts to control the oil and other energy resources. This interview lays the ground for the following interview which focuses more on what we can do as we must "Powerdown". 


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December 26, 2015

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Sue, who lived an amazing life from 1938 - 2015.