Steppin’ Out of Babylon: Podcast-Radio Interviews by Sue Supriano

“Babylon” is the “isms” and “schisms” not only within the system but within ourselves. Let's organize, unify and step out of Babylon.



Sue Supriano’s Steppin’ Out of Babylon is a radio interview series covering a broad range of important issues in today’s world: peace and war, human and civil rights, communication, the media, the environment, food security, racism, globalization, immigration and matters of the spirit. Over 250 shows are available at this site!



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Mary Ann Tenudo and Barbara Deutch

The Zapatista Movement, Plan Puebla Panama, FTAA, NAFTA, CAFTA, Farmers, Free Trade

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TRT: 29:11
Date: 2004-04-01

Mary Ann Tenudo, co-founder of the Chiapas Support Group, and Barbara Deutch, activist, went to Cuba to the Third Hemispheric Conference against the FTAA (Free Trade Agreement of the Americas). Tenudo begins by describing the Zapatista movement which became very public in 1992 as NAFTA (North American Free Trade Agreement) went into effect, threatening the well being and even survival of the indigenous peasants in southern Mexico in the area of Chiapas. She brings us up to date about how things are going for the Zapatistas now and the bad effects of NAFTA on Mexico’s corn farmers. Positively the Zapatistas are organizing collective buying, democratic governments, etc.. From the funds from this they will finance their own schools, clinics, etc.. A very positive example of "self determination". She also talks about Plan Puebla Panama which is in the works. Funded by institutions like the World Bank, construction of the infrastructure to bring tourism and "business" to the area is in process. People protested a proposed Disneyland and, as of now, defeated the plan to build. Deutsch and Tenudo describe their trip to Cuba, the issues of the Conference against the FTAA, and how these supposed "free trade" agreements adversely affect people all over the world. International attendees shared their stories at this conference. This was the first trip to Cuba for both of these women and they were both very excited about their visit. It seemed to them that people might have little, but all were fed and housed and wealth was relatively equitably distributed. They mention CAFTA (Central American Free Trade Agreement) and urge people to take action to stop it. Some websites are, The website to learn more about Chiapas is


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