Steppin’ Out of Babylon: Podcast-Radio Interviews by Sue Supriano

“Babylon” is the “isms” and “schisms” not only within the system but within ourselves. Let's organize, unify and step out of Babylon.



Sue Supriano’s Steppin’ Out of Babylon is a radio interview series covering a broad range of important issues in today’s world: peace and war, human and civil rights, communication, the media, the environment, food security, racism, globalization, immigration and matters of the spirit. Over 250 shows are available at this site!



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Jose Stevens: Program 2

Readings/predictions for the Next 10 Years

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TRT: 27:23
Date: 2005-01-01

Jose Stevens is a psychotherapist, shaman, author and international lecturer. He and his wife and colleague, Lena Stevens live in Santa Fe, New Mexico.  Jose Stevens has taught at the Psychology Graduate School and the Dept. of Transpersonal Counseling at John F. Kennedy University in Orinda, Ca. Jose Stevens and Lena Stevens founded an organization based in Santa Fe-- Power Path Seminars which does a variety of things including educational seminars and workshops on personal and spiritual matters including shamanism. They lecture and lead seminars nationally and internationally, tours to South American where the members learn from indigenous shamans and more. Some of Stevens' books are The Personality Puzzle- Solving the Mystery of Who You Are, Tao to Earth and Earth to Tao, Secrets of Shamanism- Tapping the Spirit Power Within You, co-authored with Lena Stevens, and Transforming your Dragons- How to Turn Fear Patterns into Personal Power.

Program 2: Stevens focuses on the readings/predictions he and Lena Stevens have been doing yearly for approximately 10 years. The readings are based on the same system as the personality system mentioned earlier. Their predictions for this year of 2005 are that it will be somewhat quiet before the storm although they also say that generally things are going to get rockier and rockier on the planet. Stevens goes into some detail about the themes of this year being nurturance, spiritual growth, and taking care of business before things become almost certainly more chaotic and deteriorate for the next 7 years at least. He talks at some length about the changes in technology which may have very bad consequences for health, well being, freedom and privacy using the example of microchips on products to keep track of them (and maybe us). He agrees with the prophesies that speak of 2012 as a very monumental year for the planet and those of us who live on it. He says that by 2020 the world will be unrecognizable compared to what we are presently accustomed to. Exactly how it will look will depend on us and how we create it.  He talks about trends both nationally and geopolitically, the need for much healing including especially the healing of military returning from war situations. Of course, climate change and peak oil are mentioned too. We are hearing from scientists as well about the seriousness of these changes.


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