Steppin’ Out of Babylon: Podcast-Radio Interviews by Sue Supriano

“Babylon” is the “isms” and “schisms” not only within the system but within ourselves. Let's organize, unify and step out of Babylon.



Sue Supriano’s Steppin’ Out of Babylon is a radio interview series covering a broad range of important issues in today’s world: peace and war, human and civil rights, communication, the media, the environment, food security, racism, globalization, immigration and matters of the spirit. Over 250 shows are available at this site!



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Pepperspray Case Interviews

Pepperspray victims and plaintiff-lawyer interviews, followed by a Depavers song

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TRT: 27:15
Date: 2005-04-28

Jan Lundberg interviews (1) Jennifer Banka Schneider and (2) Kerry Liz McKee, peppersprayed as passive resisters in sit-ins to protect ancient redwoods, and (3) Bill Simpich who is a lawyer for the plaintiffs in the civil rights lawsuit against law enforcement agencies and the County of Humboldt, California. The police swabbed pepperspray in the eyes of nonviolent forest defenders who were locked together with heavy steel sleeves that immobilized the protesters. Despite this summary punishment that the ACLU has called "tantamount to torture," the protesters did not back down and are having their third trial in federal court in San Francisco which began April 12, 2005. Jan Lundberg's daughter Spring is one of the plaintiffs in this case, and his band The Depavers ( provides a short song, Mother Earth First, at the end of the half-hour program.


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December 26, 2015

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Sue, who lived an amazing life from 1938 - 2015.